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buy canada goose jacket cheap Maybe he would have done well in this meta (thanks to DEldar, but the opposite is true with knights), but we would have a hard time saying for certain as his list would most likely be different or something more similar to the current IG Soup we have running around now. buy canada goose jacket cheap
canada goose uk black friday With strike from the shadows (and with the DW deep strike stratagem I recently heard about), I myself stated that they are good, and I never said otherwise. 54 bolter shots at 111 pts is good no matter how you spin it. So no, not back to square one. Unfortunately SFTS relies on going first, although it possible to still position canada goose them in cover somewhere upfield. canada goose uk black friday
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I am sorry if I misunderstood you saying that aggressors have double the fire power of mortars without firing twice as bashing mortars or as an implication that aggressors are better than mortars.
First, as you proved yourself, aggressors underperform when compared to dedicated anti infantry units that are seeing a lot of play.
Now lets compare that to a unit with a shorter range. For 112 pts you get 27 Chaos cultists, with 54 shots and 27 hits. Sure they are strength 3, canada goose deals but you always have access to Veterans of the Long War (and even more with Endless Cacophony). While they do share some differences, they are similar enough to compare them.
uk canada goose outlet I would offer more comparisons, but I only really know three armies well (IG, SM, and CSM), so I can speak to the AA of other factions. Unless I taking mortars, I wouldn really rely on S4 shots for anti infantry, and we can make comparisons to weapons of other strength easily. uk canada goose outlet
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uk canada goose If the meta was a lot better against his list, his undefeated record doesn make sense. Outside of Sanguinary guard (which are definitely scary in CC), his list seems to be solely anti infantry. uk canada goose
canada goose coats Man. you gotta drop this rigid perspective of how the game plays „good meta i win bad meta i lose“. The meta was more dangerous for EVERYONE back then, it has been neutered purposefully with Ro3. This doesn mean his list couldn perform, hell he was taking 6 mortar teams himself as you said. All I saying is that the way he played Aggressors is still an option, and the meta changes haven stacked against it at all, outside of the introduction of Knights of course, if anything its potentially even benefit them. canada goose coats
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canada goose uk outlet I wasn saying it was set against him. I just said that meta changes since, are not to the detriment of how he used aggressors. And again, rigid view of what meta means. canada goose uk outlet
Canada Goose sale First, as you proved yourself, aggressors underperform when compared to dedicated anti infantry units that are seeing a lot of play. Canada Goose sale
canada goose clearance I don think I proved that at all. I thought I proved that they were pretty Canada Goose online much on par with some of the dedicated anti infantry glass cannons in the game, and that BEFORE the big threat of double shoot. canada goose clearance
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Now lets compare that to a unit with a shorter range. For 112 pts you get 27 Canada Goose Jackets Chaos cultists, with 54 shots and 27 hits. Sure they are strength 3, but you always have access to Veterans of the Long War (and even more with Endless Cacophony). While they do share some differences, they are similar enough to compare them.
canada goose store Well for starters you take larger units of Aggressors for max value. Secondly each aggressor has 9.5 shots ( i counted 8.5 on my last maths I since corrected making them even better). Thirdly almost any situation where cultists are double shooting is one where Aggressors can be too. canada goose store
Yeah, I agree with you that Flyrant spam isn an easy list to beat. However, since they were focused on devourers, they needed to come him to use their weapons. This canada goose coats on sale was most likely beneficial as it would have allowed him to reap full value from firing twice.
Still, the meta has moved to be somewhat against aggressors. As you said, Knights suck for them, and they are canada goose outlet pretty hyped up right now. I not sure what the range of the guns on the DEldar vehicle are. If they need to be within 18 inches, then yes, aggressors massed amount of firepower is good against them. If they don however, there maneuverability would make it hard for the aggressors to be in range.
The current list at the top of the meta right now would probably give them a hard time as well. Without any means of transportation, they are going to have a difficult time canada goose clearance sale reaching the other side of the board to deal with the massed Imperial guard formation. Artemia Pattern hellhounds simply wreck them either by firing or by exploding and can tie them up. Knights are knights.
As far as 30 pt commanders go, it good that they are 30 pts as captains for SM are much more. Further, every single guard list that is run cheap Canada Goose competitively takes them as an HQ. Since buy canada goose jacket cheap everyone is running mortars and hell hounds, they are also taking Catachan. Thus, it is easy to view them with buffs as they will always have them in this meta. Still, it is better to make baseline comparisons without these buffs, but to then consider them afterwards (especially the regimental doctrine since it doesn cost any points).
On the other hand, not everyone would chaperone an aggressor squad with a captain, and not everyone takes the same chapter, jacketstockk as there are multiple you could use (RG, UM, DW, BA). Since there are so many ways to run them where they may or may not get buffs from various things, it hard to say how they benefit from CT and other re rolls.
buy canada goose jacket With your comparisons, you did prove that while somewhat similar, other meta units do clearly out perform them. Mortars with their long range and better damage out of LOS and canada goose black friday sale their doctrine, and devourers with more damage. Yes you did mess up the math a little, but you did so for the mortars as well, and to a greater degree. buy canada goose jacket
I agree, the comparison to cultists is a little unfair in their favor, as they get access to great stratagems that the aggressors don Still, it a comparison I wanted to make as you are trying to make the argument that aggressors (or rather just 27 bolter shots at 26 inches) have one of the highest outputs in the entire game Canada Goose Outlet.